FORNICATION – “ILLICIT,” “ALL,” “EVERY KIND OF,” ETC.
Indefinite / arbitrary definitions (from transformation period, and by today’s “Christians”)
Also about “sexual immorality”
Greek (“Christian” published):
A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, Walter Bauer, 1958, revised by Arndt / Gingrich 1979, p. 693, “πορνεία”:
Saying “of every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse” just shows that they’ve decided to “make up” whatever they want it to translate as. Exactly who’s “law” is to decide what’s to be included? Again this is a basis word that has to explain exactly what’s unlawful fully in its definition. Opening it up for whatever, just proves a want-to-be corruption.
A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Thayer, 1889, “πορνεία”:
The problem with “illicit sexual intercourse in general” is that it is not saying exactly what that is, thereby revealing corruption. Again, this is the “base word” that has to tell exactly what the sin is. Ambiguous definitions / senses are invalid, and show proof that they are made up, so to entertain the corruptors and fool the people.
To the above: Where are these definitions including “marriages” that “are to be rejected”?
The Complete Word Study Dictionary of the New Testament, Zodhiates, 1993, p. 1201, “4202” (“Strong” number):
Either way, you mean Jesus was born spuriously of a concubine?
P. 1202, “4203”:
P. 1202, “4204”:
P. 1202, “4205”:
Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, 1889, Baker Books 1997, p. 532, “πόρνη”:
English:
Webster’s New International Dictionary of the English Language, 1933, p. 855:
“Unlawful” or “illicit” really don’t specify exactly what kind of sex is prohibited. It could be rape or something else? By the way, having sex with a concubine is having sex outside of marriage.
Webster’s Universal Dictionary of the English Language (unabridged), 1909, p. 675:
That’s another thing: Some say it’s also adultery and some say it isn’t. That just shows there is no stable meaning other than the original meaning of prostitution (sex for money).
P. 1919, “whoredom”:
A Dictionary of the English Language: Academic Edition, Noah Webster, 1867, p. 173, “Forn…”:
Encyclopedia of the Early Church, Oxford, 1992, Vol. 1, p. 328:
If it’s a “vague term” then why are people so sure it means sex between single people? I assume the 6th commandment is (Catholic & Orthodox) “adultery” which is the 7th in Hebrew and Protestant. According to Matt. 5:32; 19:9, Jesus says it refers to adultery only if the adultery is done as… prostitution.
The New Unger’s Bible Dictionary, 1988, p. 441, “FORNICATION”:
“Illicit sexual intercourse in general” doesn’t exactly define the context of the sexual intercourse. “Illicit” can change from society to society, and has only a secular basis.
Young’s Compact Bible Dictionary, 1989, p. 215, “FORNICATION”:
“A broad word that can be used for a full spectrum of sexual sins”: Just whatever you want it to be, right?
The Holy Bible: Clarified Edition (KJV), Consolidated Book Publishers, 1957, no page number, “Encyclopedic Index: Concordance and Dictionary, Gilbert James Brett, Editor | FORNICATION”:
The Unvarnished New Testament: A New Translation from the Original Greek, Andy Gaus, 1991, “Glossary” p. 493, “Adultery”:
Adultery is the breaking of a promise, and therefore is a direct violation of the Goldenrule.
“Sexual immorality”:
“Sexual immorality” simply means an “arbitrary sexual wrong.” It does not say exactly “what” the wrong is. It does not say “by who’s” definition, or by “what” definition or standard. But “fornication / pornia” is a “basis” word, that must (and does) describe “the wrong” (i.e. “sex for MONEY”). Also, “illegal sexual intercourse” is not defining exactly what is “illegal”: by what / who’s law? Since “pornia” (as it’s pronounced) is a basis word for “God’s law,” then it MUST give a conclusive definition or explanation of exactly what that law is. For example: Since prostitution is legal in Nevada, Germany, etc., does that mean if you live in one of those areas “God’s law” does not apply to you? In some states, oral sex is illegal. – Does that mean God allows it or disallows it depending on what state you live in? And, that’s a law that never gets enforced anymore anyway. In some parts of the world, it is illegal to have sex (even with your wife) in any position other than the missionary one. Does that mean God also “requires” the same?
I realize that, in my part of the world, since people have trusted our religious leaders who have “verbally” told us that sex between single people is denounced in the Bible via “fornication,” people will “assume” that’s what “sexual immorality” is; but, in reality: by the “intelligent approach,” the church MUST HAVE a Biblical “BASIS” word or description to say they have a Biblical basis word or description. I can’t believe everyone has “just fallen for it.” Therefore, “sexual immorality” and “illegal sexual intercourse” are NOT valid definitions! They are arbitrary terms only, pertinent only to what area of the world you happen to live in; and therefore, are NOT from God (the entire world).
For example, the word “legitimate” means being in compliance with the law or accepted patterns and standards, but also includes “born of legally married parents”; which is only a changeable sense produced by the basis of the word per whatever one wants to call legal. If the legal part changes, then the regional definition would also change. So, if an ancient writing says, hypothetically, that someone is born “legitimate” but the marriage standards of that religion was the opposite, then being born outside of marriage would be “legitimate.”
More miscellaneous definitions:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_marj_l3.htm, Liberal Christian Views Favoring Same-Sex Marriages, “The sexually-active single | Passages in the Christian Scriptures”:
There are 32 verses in the Christian Scriptures that contain the word "pornea" in the original Greek. It is normally translated into English as "fornication." It is derived from the Latin word fornix, which meant a vault, or an arch. "The term also referred to a vaulted cellar or similar place where prostitutes plied their trade." 5 According to the Strong's Concordance "pornea" means harlotry, including adultery and incest. 6 However, most conservative Christian churches have greatly expanded the English term "fornication." According to Christs Freedmen, it now includes sex before marriage, "orgies, masturbation, oral sex, fetishes, anything to do with pornography, 'improper' thoughts about the opposite sex, homosexuality, and just about any other sexual sin you could think of. While some of these things are sin...this is a gross misuse of the word fornication.
http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/sex.html, The Fundamentalist's Misuse of Sex:
According to the Watchtower publication supplied to the elders entitled" Pay Attention To Yourselves And To The Flock," it states on page 93, "Porneia . . . . includes oral and anal sex or mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other . . . . "
You see, they just make up what ever they want.
http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4202&version=kjv, The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon, “Porneia”:
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A Dictionary of Contemporary American Usage, 1957, p. 186, “fornication”:
Note on masculine form:
Interestingly, in many cases “homosexuality” is added to pornia’s masculine form (pornos [“πόρνο…-ς”]), with connections to pimp and john, because a “male prostitute” normally sells his favors to other men, opposed to the less frequent “gigolo.” Technically, to use the correct English “masculine” parallels, where the English Bible incorrectly uses “fornicator(s)” / “whoremonger(s)” it should instead read as male prostitute(s): a male selling his sexual favors for money (the “nominative [direct subject]” singular case form; also πόρνοι: the plural nominative case form), as in 1Cor. 5:11; 6:9; Eph. 5:5; Heb. 12:16; and Rev. 22:15. As pimps / procurers / brothel managers (πόρνοις: the “dative [indirect object: the means by which something is done]” case form) in 1Cor. 5:9-10; 1Tim. 1:10; and Rev. 21:8. And, as the female prostitute’s customer: johns and men that exclusively own, or keep female prostitutes / concubines (this should include wives) (πόρνους: the “accusative / objective [goal, or the direct object receiving the action / sex]” case form) in Heb. 13:4. Also, interestingly, I’ve never seen anyone attack homosexuality using this masculine, nominative form of sex for money: Apparently, no English translator really knew Greek that well.
Therefore, to correctly distinguish by form:
“Male prostitute” (nominative):
1 Corinthians 5:11 [KJV]:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator [male prostitute], or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
1 Corinthians 6:9:
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators [male prostitutes], nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Ephesians 5:5:
For this ye know, that no whoremonger [male prostitute], nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Hebrews 12:16:
Lest there be any fornicator [male prostitute], or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Revelation 22:15:
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers [male prostitutes], and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
“Pimps” (dative):
1 Corinthians 5:9-10:
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators [pimps]:
10Yet not altogether with the fornicators [pimps] of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
1 Timothy 1:10:
For whoremongers [pimps], for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Revelation 21:8:
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers [pimps], and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
“Johns” (accusative / objective):
Hebrews 13:4:
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers [johns] and adulterers God will judge.
I could probably translate an entirely new understanding of the Bible.